Re: [Bug 1675390] mingw-wine-gecko: FTBFS in Fedora rawhide/f30

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Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> Right. So it sounds like the package could be made to "build" very easily.

By shipping the upstream blob as is? That would not really be compliant to 
Fedora packaging guidelines, would it? At least I would hope it would not 
be! (This is not really firmware, WINE loads it into the regular userspace.)

The problem is that the code no longer compiles with the current cross-MinGW 
toolchain, and upstream has not done anything to fix that because they still 
ship their old binary.

> The fact that maintainers could not do this since 2016 is IMO a good
> reason to retire the package. We need to drop packages which FTBFS, FTI,
> or have multiple security bugs open. Each package that fails at the mass
> rebuild sucks up time of other maintainers who will try to figure out what
> it doesn't build and fix it. Every package that FTI sucks up time of users
> who try to install the package. Every package that has CVEs without any
> response means that users (reasonably) have doubts about the overall
> security of Fedora, and also obscures other issues which might be really
> important. Over the years Fedora has collected a lot of "cruft". We need
> to do cleanup sweeps because otherwise the distro becomes a garbage site
> where it's impossible to do any kind of improvement at scale.

Retiring packages leaves the user with no software at all to fulfill their 
needs. Users want the best software available to perform their tasks. That 
software may be in a less than ideal state, it may even be insecure, but 
that can still be better than not having the software available at all. If 
the software does not install at all (or installs but does not run), that 
obviously needs fixing, but if it just FTBFS and/or has some CVEs that are 
not critical in the user's environment (e.g., mingw-wine-gecko is more 
likely to be used to view either some local HTML files in Windows programs 
or parts of a specific ISV's website than to browse the entire untrusted 
Internet), having the software available is often better than having nothing 
at all.

        Kevin Kofler
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