Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: Move test.support module to python3-test subpackage

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On Mon, 2019-06-24 at 22:10 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 24. 06. 19 22:06, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote:
> > On Mon, 2019-06-24 at 12:09 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Move_test.support_module_to_python3-test_subpackage
> > > 
> > > == Summary ==
> > > 
> > > Move <code>test.support</code> from <code>python3-libs</code> to
> > > <code>python3-test</code> subpackage.
> > > 
> > > == Owner ==
> > > * Name: [[User:lbalhar| Lumír Balhar]]
> > > * Email: [mailto:lbalhar@xxxxxxxxxx| lbalhar@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > == Detailed Description ==
> > > 
> > > Python test modules should be used only for testing Python itself.
> > > However, some packages have buildtime or runtime dependency on parts
> > > of Python test modules. The aim of this change is to move the most
> > > popular Python test module <code>test.support</code> from
> > > <code>python3-libs</code> to <code>python3-test</code> subpackage
> > > which will help us discover packages which depend on it and also
> > > identify parts of the module which might be useful to move to standard
> > > library.
> > 
> > The main reason for this change is to *experiment* and see what breaks
> > when it is moved?  Why can't that be done in copr instead?
> 
> The main reason for this change is to make packaging of Python easier (and more 
> explicit) and less error prone in the future. Discovering packages that need 
> test.support is a secondary goal that help upstream but does not help Fedora much.
> 
> Should the change be reworded so this is more clear?

I would say the scoping should happen (e.g. in copr) first, then we'll
know what the scope (and hence feasibility) of this change truly is.

-- 
Yaakov Selkowitz
Senior Software Engineer - Platform Enablement
Red Hat, Inc.

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