Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: Move test.support module to python3-test subpackage

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On Mon, 2019-06-24 at 12:09 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Move_test.support_module_to_python3-test_subpackage
> 
> == Summary ==
> 
> Move <code>test.support</code> from <code>python3-libs</code> to
> <code>python3-test</code> subpackage.
> 
> == Owner ==
> * Name: [[User:lbalhar| Lumír Balhar]]
> * Email: [mailto:lbalhar@xxxxxxxxxx| lbalhar@xxxxxxxxxx]
> 
> 
> == Detailed Description ==
> 
> Python test modules should be used only for testing Python itself.
> However, some packages have buildtime or runtime dependency on parts
> of Python test modules. The aim of this change is to move the most
> popular Python test module <code>test.support</code> from
> <code>python3-libs</code> to <code>python3-test</code> subpackage
> which will help us discover packages which depend on it and also
> identify parts of the module which might be useful to move to standard
> library.

The main reason for this change is to *experiment* and see what breaks
when it is moved?  Why can't that be done in copr instead?

> Also, [https://docs.python.org/3/library/test.html#module-test.support
> the Python documentation] says test.support is not a public module.
> Other things should not depend on it, and if something is useful
> outside the CPython test suite, we should ideally take it out of
> test.support.
> 
> == Benefit to Fedora ==
> 
> The main benefit here is that moving it all to -test is less fragile
> and more consistent.
> 
> It also helps us understand which parts of Python test suite are
> useful and which is worth to move to the standard library.
> 
> There were also a few bugs caused by parts of the test module packaged
> in different subpackages and by differences between Python 2 and 3 -
> [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1651245 RHBZ#1651245],
> [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1528899 RHBZ#1528899],
> [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=596258 RHBZ#596258]
> 
> == Scope ==
> * Proposal owners:
> ** Move <code>test.support</code> from <code>python3-libs</code> to
> <code>python3-test</code> subpackage.
> ** Identify as many as possible affected packages and try to fix their
> buildtime/runtime issues caused by the change.
> 
> * Other developers:
> ** If a package depends on <code>test.support</code> module which we
> move to -test subpackage, change the build/runtime dependencies
> definition accordingly.
> 
> * Release engineering: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
> 
> * Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
> 
> * Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change)
> 
> == Upgrade/compatibility impact ==
> Test modules should not be used as a runtime dependency so there is no
> impact on an upgrade.
> 
> == How To Test ==
> 
> N/A (not a System Wide Change)
> 
> == User Experience ==
> The user experience should not be affected.
> 
> == Dependencies ==
> N/A (not a System Wide Change)
> 
> == Contingency Plan ==
> 
> * Contingency mechanism: Changes will be mostly done in Python
> specfile and they can be easily reverted in case of some unexpected
> issues. The second possibility is to set Provides to temporarily
> deactivate the impact of the change.
> * Contingency deadline: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
> * Blocks release? N/A (not a System Wide Change)
> * Blocks product? No.
> 
> == Documentation ==
> N/A (not a System Wide Change)
> 
> == Release Notes ==
> Since this affects only a few packages, no release notes are necessary.


-- 
Yaakov Selkowitz
Senior Software Engineer - Platform Enablement
Red Hat, Inc.

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