On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 19:15 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 2/28/19 6:55 PM, Kalev Lember wrote: > > On 2/28/19 18:05, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > On 28. 02. 19 16:55, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > More generally, the *flood* of Python 2 dep issues here is something I > > > > was definitely concerned about with the Python 2 retirement policy > > > > explicitly deciding not to say anything about obsoleting Python 2 > > > > subpackages :( > > > > > > I wanted the py3 packages to obsolte the py2, but i was outvoted. > > > > I completely agree with you. I think you should have gone to FESCo and > > ask them to overrule the FPC in this case. > > With all due respect, this would be an utter act of violence. > > You can not obsolete packages which are still used by other packages nor > can you obsolete packages which do not functionally replace other packages. Sure you can. It is clearly semantically incorrect for 'foo' to *provide* 'bar' if foo does not, in fact, do whatever bar did. But it is not at all incorrect for 'foo' to *obsolete* 'bar' in this case - if 'foo' does in some sense render 'bar' obsolete. Since libblockdev dropped its python2 subpackage, the new version of libblockdev clearly *does* render python2-libblockdev 'obsolete', because the two cannot co-exist. It cannot be said to 'provide' python2-libblockdev, but it certainly *obsoletes* it. Note that *not* doing explicit obsoletes forces people upgrading their systems to do a much more "violent act" if they want the upgrade to work: either manually remove all not-properly-obsoleted packages, or use --allowerasing , which can easily cause much worse problems in many cases of packaging issues. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx