Re: Fedora 30 System-Wide Change proposal: Remove Obsolete Scriptlets

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On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 11:22:21AM +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 2:20 AM Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>> "ZJ" == Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> >
> > ZJ> I think it's pretty clear: all the standard invocations of
> > ZJ> scriptlets that have by replaced by transfiletriggers will be
> > ZJ> removed, along with the whole %post/%postun sections if its the only
> > ZJ> thing in them.
> >
> > I do think it would be better to list exactly what is expected to be
> > changed (and which packages actually need which changes).
> 
> Done.
> 
> * ldconfig scriptlets will be removed (or by maintainer request will
> be replaced by %ldconfig_scriptlets macro which exists on Fedora and
> EPEL)
> * gtk-update-icon-cache, glib-compile-schemas,
> gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders, gtk-query-immodules-3.0, gio-querymodules
> and install-info will be removed (or by maintainer request will be
> guarded with %if's)
> 
> 
> > ZJ> I think that the way this should be handled is that if maintainers
> > ZJ> of a package want to use a single branch for F30+ and
> > ZJ> EPEL/RHEL/whatever, it is on them to arrange the spec file with the
> > ZJ> appropriate conditionals.
> >
> > Well, that's what makes it tough.  You can remove the scriptlets, or you
> > can replace them with the various sets of macros which do nothing on
> > Fedora and do something on EPEL (to the extent that is even possible).
> > The macros needed are often context-dependent.  Certainly just removing
> > things is simplest but will cause the most upset.
> >
> > It's not trivial to know if a maintainer insists on the single spec
> > approach, so it can be rather difficult to do this in an automated
> > fashion.  Of course it would be easy if everyone just fixed the packages
> > they maintain so that there's no need for automated fixup.  I'd hope
> > that some of that might happen if the lists of packages which need
> > changes are provided.  I did some of that a couple of releases ago and I
> > could try to do it again if someone could lengthen the day by a few
> > hours.
> 
> I've updated change which is explicitly mentions that I'm going to
> send Pull Requests to packages, so it should not make anyone unhappy.

Are you sure this is a viable approach?

$ rpm -qa --scripts|grep ldconfig|wc -l
1130

(and I have only 5k packages installed, 20% of the whole distro?).
Counting one PR for every two ldconfigs, you'd have to open maybe
500-2000 PRs. Not only is it a waste of _your_ time, but of the other
500-2000 people to answer this.

Zbyszek
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