Re: Proposal: delay F31 release to work out infrastructure and lifecycle challenges

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On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:34 PM Peter Robinson <pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 8:22 PM Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:03 PM Peter Robinson <pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > There's no facts or details, to quote "The reported speed increase for
> > > transactions is substantial. This may solve (or greatly reduce) the
> > > compose speed problem, TBD." but it doesn't report the context of the
> > > "speed increase for transactions" .... like which transactions?
> > > There's a lot of I/O heavy processes in the compose, like createrepo,
> > > that don't run any rpm tracsactions what so ever.
> >
> > Paul was referring to image creation here. We should be able to get a
> > fairly significant (at least one order of magnitude) speed-up on
> > creating any image that runs an RPM installation transaction. I'm not
> > sure how much that will save in the *whole* compose process, but as
> > it's an identified spot where we know how to optimize it, we should do
> > so.
>
> But ultimately removing rpm transactions is an optimisation to rpm
> which, when it lands, the compose plus numerous other compoents that
> use that code path will just consume and at that point get the
> benefits of, it's not a reason to skip a release nor is it going to be
> a revolution that gets the composes down to an hour. I don't believe
> that that alone is and order of magnitude change, do you have any
> actual hard figured to back the statement up?

Paul overstated the general importance of the scriptlet work. As I
said above, it will affect the RPM transactions. Will Woods has
numbers on the actual performance gains that I'm sure he'll share on
this thread at some point. I said above "I'm not sure how much that
will save in the *whole* compose process" and I meant that. I'm not
advocating that we postpone F31 solely for these changes. At the same
time, let's be careful not to slip into a "perfect is the enemy of
good" situation where we start critiquing individual solutions as not
having enough of an effect.
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