On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 5:05 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 09:50:33AM -0500, Paul Frields wrote: > > Here's the summary from the page, which proposes we pause the release > > after F30 for these efforts: > > I know it was a big time-off holiday week in the US, but I expected a little > more interest in this post. Hi Matthew, I initially basically ignored the previous E-Mail, because it didn't come from a person I knew, and - from quickly glancing over the contents - read like marketing fluff. I should have dug deeper there, but we all only have limited time. > Perhaps it seemed like too much text to digest > along with turkey and stuffing. :) I'm highlighting it with a subject > reflecting the big, direct impact, and here's some other top-level > proposals: This is definitely getting more attention. Maybe the initial E-Mail should have had a less bland Subject line, too ;) > * embrace Taiga (an open source kanban tool) for project planning > * fix the compose speed (target: one hour!) > * really actually for real gated Rawhide > * better CI pipeline tests for everything > * better tooling for non-base deliverables > * better metrics for everything Those all sound like good things to work on. > * define a base platform -- Red Hat wants to focus resources here This point though ... hmm. Also kind of mentioned on the linked wiki page: > #3 (...) Define a small, draft set of content for the Platform which can iterate over time What exactly does that mean? Moving to something two-tiered like the ubuntu model (main / universe) - which I think is a terrible solution? (And what would be the names for this in fedora - "core" and "extras"? (pun definitely intended)) Also, I find it funny that - somehow - tons of resources would be available for "better CI pipeline tests for everything" (!), but we'd have to "focus resources" when it comes to the fedora "platform" itself. I hope my response doesn't read overly negative or critical - but I think some fedora contributors (including me) have been weary of something like this ("focusing resources") since the IBM news got announced. Fabio > Please read https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives/Lifecycle/Problem_statements > and comment in this thread. > > -- > Matthew Miller > <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Fedora Project Leader > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx