On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 5:08 PM Orion Poplawski <orion@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 11/18/18 2:29 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > I'm not for or against a longer Fedora lifecycle, but I think we need > > a stronger statement of what the problem is we're trying to address. > > > > From your email: > > > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 06:36:38PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > >> But there are some good cases for a longer lifecycle. For one thing, > >> this has been a really big blocker for getting Fedora shipped on > >> hardware. Second, there are people who really could be happily running > >> Fedora but since we don't check the tickbox, they don't even look at us > >> seriously. I'd love to change these things. To do that, we need > >> something that lasts for 36-48 months. > > > > this sounds like a very valid problem. > > > > But if this was fixed, what number of manufacturers would adopt Fedora > > and how many installations do they ship (eg per year)? Could it be > > fixed in another way, like a special OEM Fedora release? > > And why haven't these manufacturers already adopted CentOS which is > definitely around longer than 36-48 months? > I think it's quite obvious why. No one can really influence what's in CentOS. Red Hat Enterprise Linux itself is developed mostly behind closed doors, after forking a Fedora release. If we had an equivalent to Fedora Legacy/openSUSE Evergreen to support a specific release for an extended period of time, we could also allow ODMs/OEMs to be part of that process to help improve support of their equipment with Linux and that effort would be able to be pushed upstream with guidance from Fedora to benefit all Linux distributions. And while most people think the relationship is Red Hat -> Fedora, it's actually the other way around. Fedora can be an integration point for PC makers to help those people to benefit the Linux ecosystem as a whole. But I don't think we should extend the lifecycle on a general basis. That's asking for trouble, since it cedes our leadership in the Linux platform and destroys our ability to meet our own values. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
