Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

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On 11/14/18 3:56 PM, Laura Abbott wrote:
On 11/14/18 5:29 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 12:32:14PM +0100, Adam Samalik wrote:
Do we have any user data about what "stability" means to users and on what different levels that can be achieved? Is it about app versions such as MariaDB? is it about language runtime versions such as Node.js? is it about things like glibc? or kernel? Or does it need to be the whole distro as we
have it today?

In case we don't find a uniform solution that would fit all those cases (==
for the whole release as we know it today), focusing on those specific
levels (modules? rings?! ;) ) might help with different approaches could
help us at least a little bit. Well, considering there are some.

I'm thinking mostly about a base platform. And even there, I think kernel
versions and such can change -- we don't need a RHEL-style kernel ABI
promise. We just need changes there to not break 1) the hardware it runs on
and 2) the stuff on top.

So it's business as usual for the kernel then :)

More seriously, I do think we need to define what LTS actually means.
Especially for the kernel, there's already LTS defined upstream but that
may not align with what Fedora wants to do elsewhere. We may not want
a super strong RHEL ABI but actual LTS users may not want to deal with
other aspects of a kernel upgrade.

Does Fedora remaining on the same kernel for a longer period of time open up useful opportunities? EG, if the same kernel were the default for a longer period of time would that help make it suitable for factory installs? I really enjoy that the same Fedora release goes through many kernels in its lifetime, but being able to buy an XPS with Fedora would easily equal that delight.

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Brendan Conoboy / RHEL Development Coordinator / Red Hat, Inc.
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