I have a question about this because I don't fully understand modularity. If these packages are retired, how will maintainers get them installed from their respective modules in order to build their own packages, and how will users get the appropriate modules installed to satisfy dependencies? Or is it the case that no F30 packages will be able to depend on them at all?
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 13:11 Mikolaj Izdebski <mizdebsk@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
TL;DR I am planning to orphan Java packages listed below soon after
Fedora 29 GA. Let me know if you want to adopt any of them.
I'm in the process of transitioning maintenance of all software to
modules only. The reason is that module maintenance is much easier
compared to maintenance of non-modular, "ursine" packages. Starting from
Fedora 29 modules are first-class citizens, so I am finally able to
orphan ursine packages that are already available in modules.
Ideally these packages should be retired instead of orphaning them, but
these packages are build-required by a lot of other things.
Unfortunately as of today modules can't be used as build-requires of
ursine packages and I'm not aware of any plans to change that. Therefore
I will let interested parties take maintenance of orphaned packages, or
else let release engineering figure out how to retire them without
breaking the whole distro.
I decided to start with the following subset of ursine packages for
which I am listed as PoC. Until Fedora 29 GA I will be providing all
updates and fixes to these packages in all active +*release branches.
After Fedora 29 GA I will orphan these packages, but I will keep
providing important bugfixes for Fedora 27 and Fedora 28. After Fedora
28 EOL I will not maintain these packages in release (non-arbitrary)
branches at all - I will maintain only corresponding modules.
If you want to adopt any of these packages, please let me know and I
will happily transfer them to you.
Packages orphan:
ant
ant-contrib
aopalliance
apache-commons-beanutils
apache-commons-collections
apache-commons-compress
apache-commons-io
apache-commons-jxpath
apache-commons-lang
apache-commons-lang3
apache-commons-logging
apache-commons-net
apache-ivy
apache-parent
apache-resource-bundles
aqute-bnd
atinject
bcel
beust-jcommander
bsf
bsh
byaccj
cal10n
easymock
exec-maven-plugin
felix-osgi-core
felix-utils
geronimo-jms
geronimo-jpa
geronimo-parent-poms
glassfish-jsp-api
google-guice
guava20
hawtjni
httpcomponents-client
httpcomponents-core
httpcomponents-project
jakarta-commons-httpclient
jansi
jansi-native
javacc
javacc-maven-plugin
javamail
javapackages-tools
javassist
jaxen
jdepend
jdependency
jflex
jsoup
junit
jvnet-parent
maven
maven-antrun-plugin
maven-archiver
maven-artifact-resolver
maven-artifact-transfer
maven-assembly-plugin
maven-clean-plugin
maven-compiler-plugin
maven-dependency-analyzer
maven-dependency-plugin
maven-dependency-tree
maven-doxia
maven-doxia-sitetools
maven-enforcer
maven-file-management
maven-filtering
maven-invoker
maven-jar-plugin
maven-parent
maven-plugin-build-helper
maven-plugin-bundle
maven-plugins-pom
maven-plugin-testing
maven-plugin-tools
maven-reporting-api
maven-reporting-impl
maven-resolver
maven-script-interpreter
maven-shade-plugin
maven-shared-incremental
maven-shared-io
maven-shared-utils
maven-source-plugin
maven-surefire
maven-verifier
maven-wagon
modello
mojo-parent
munge-maven-plugin
objectweb-pom
osgi-compendium
osgi-core
os-maven-plugin
plexus-ant-factory
plexus-archiver
plexus-bsh-factory
plexus-classworlds
plexus-cli
plexus-compiler
plexus-component-factories-pom
plexus-components-pom
plexus-containers
plexus-i18n
plexus-interactivity
plexus-interpolation
plexus-io
plexus-languages
plexus-resources
plexus-utils
plexus-velocity
qdox
regexp
sisu
sisu-mojos
slf4j
sonatype-oss-parent
sonatype-plugins-parent
velocity
xalan-j2
xbean
xmvn
xz-java
Maintainers by package:
ant akurtakov jcapik kdaniel mizdebsk msrb
ant-contrib davidcl mizdebsk
aopalliance mizdebsk
apache-commons-beanutils fnasser mizdebsk spike
apache-commons-collections jcapik mizdebsk
apache-commons-compress mizdebsk spike
apache-commons-io mizdebsk spike
apache-commons-jxpath fnasser mizdebsk spike
apache-commons-lang mizdebsk spike
apache-commons-lang3 mizdebsk
apache-commons-logging kdaniel mizdebsk spike
apache-commons-net mizdebsk spike
apache-ivy mizdebsk
apache-parent mizdebsk
apache-resource-bundles mizdebsk
aqute-bnd jcapik mizdebsk
atinject kdaniel mizdebsk
bcel mizdebsk
beust-jcommander jcapik mizdebsk
bsf choeger mizdebsk
bsh mizdebsk
byaccj akurtakov dbhole mizdebsk
cal10n mizdebsk
easymock akurtakov ctubbsii dbhole fnasser mizdebsk
exec-maven-plugin mizdebsk
felix-osgi-core jcapik mizdebsk
felix-utils jcapik mizdebsk
geronimo-jms mizdebsk
geronimo-jpa lef mizdebsk
geronimo-parent-poms mizdebsk
glassfish-jsp-api kdaniel mizdebsk
google-guice mizdebsk
guava20 mizdebsk
hawtjni gil goldmann mizdebsk
httpcomponents-client jerboaa kdaniel mizdebsk
httpcomponents-core jerboaa kdaniel mizdebsk
httpcomponents-project mizdebsk
jakarta-commons-httpclient dbhole ke4qqq mizdebsk
jansi goldmann mizdebsk
jansi-native goldmann mizdebsk
javacc jcapik mizdebsk
javacc-maven-plugin jcapik mizdebsk
javamail mizdebsk
javapackages-tools mizdebsk msrb
javassist john5342 mizdebsk
jaxen mizdebsk
jdepend goldmann jcapik mizdebsk
jdependency mizdebsk
jflex jcapik mizdebsk
jsoup jcapik mizdebsk
junit kdaniel mizdebsk
jvnet-parent mizdebsk
maven akurtakov jamielinux mizdebsk msrb
maven-antrun-plugin mizdebsk
maven-archiver akurtakov mizdebsk
maven-artifact-resolver mizdebsk
maven-artifact-transfer mizdebsk
maven-assembly-plugin gil huwang jcapik mizdebsk
maven-clean-plugin mizdebsk
maven-compiler-plugin mizdebsk
maven-dependency-analyzer mizdebsk
maven-dependency-plugin mizdebsk
maven-dependency-tree mizdebsk
maven-doxia akurtakov mef mizdebsk
maven-doxia-sitetools akurtakov dbhole mizdebsk
maven-enforcer jcapik mizdebsk
maven-file-management mizdebsk
maven-filtering mizdebsk
maven-invoker mizdebsk
maven-jar-plugin mizdebsk
maven-parent mizdebsk
maven-plugin-build-helper mizdebsk
maven-plugin-bundle jcapik mizdebsk
maven-plugin-testing jcapik mizdebsk yyang
maven-plugin-tools jcapik mizdebsk yyang
maven-plugins-pom mizdebsk
maven-reporting-api mizdebsk
maven-reporting-impl mizdebsk
maven-resolver mizdebsk
maven-script-interpreter mizdebsk
maven-shade-plugin jcapik mizdebsk pingou
maven-shared-incremental mizdebsk
maven-shared-io mizdebsk
maven-shared-utils mizdebsk
maven-source-plugin mizdebsk
maven-surefire akurtakov jcapik mizdebsk
maven-verifier mizdebsk
maven-wagon akurtakov dbhole fnasser jcapik mizdebsk yyang
modello fnasser mizdebsk yyang
mojo-parent mizdebsk
munge-maven-plugin mizdebsk
objectweb-pom mizdebsk
os-maven-plugin ctubbsii mizdebsk
osgi-compendium mizdebsk
osgi-core mizdebsk
plexus-ant-factory mizdebsk
plexus-archiver dbhole jcapik mizdebsk
plexus-bsh-factory mizdebsk
plexus-classworlds dbhole fnasser mizdebsk
plexus-cli mizdebsk
plexus-compiler mizdebsk
plexus-component-factories-pom mizdebsk
plexus-components-pom mizdebsk
plexus-containers dbhole fnasser mizdebsk yyang
plexus-i18n dbhole jcapik mizdebsk
plexus-interactivity mizdebsk
plexus-interpolation gil jcapik mizdebsk
plexus-io jcapik mizdebsk
plexus-languages mizdebsk
plexus-resources jcapik mizdebsk
plexus-utils fnasser mizdebsk
plexus-velocity jcapik mizdebsk
qdox mizdebsk
regexp mizdebsk
sisu mizdebsk
sisu-mojos mizdebsk
slf4j mizdebsk
sonatype-oss-parent mizdebsk
sonatype-plugins-parent mizdebsk
velocity devrim mizdebsk
xalan-j2 kdaniel mizdebsk
xbean kdaniel mizdebsk
xmvn mizdebsk msrb
xz-java kdaniel mizdebsk
Packages by maintainer:
akurtakov ant byaccj easymock maven maven-archiver maven-doxia
maven-doxia-sitetools maven-surefire maven-wagon
choeger bsf
ctubbsii easymock os-maven-plugin
davidcl ant-contrib
dbhole byaccj easymock jakarta-commons-httpclient
maven-doxia-sitetools maven-wagon plexus-archiver plexus-classworlds
plexus-containers plexus-i18n
devrim velocity
fnasser apache-commons-beanutils apache-commons-jxpath easymock
maven-wagon modello plexus-classworlds plexus-containers plexus-utils
gil hawtjni maven-assembly-plugin plexus-interpolation
goldmann hawtjni jansi jansi-native jdepend
huwang maven-assembly-plugin
jamielinux maven
jcapik ant apache-commons-collections aqute-bnd beust-jcommander
felix-osgi-core felix-utils javacc javacc-maven-plugin jdepend jflex
jsoup maven-assembly-plugin maven-enforcer maven-plugin-bundle
maven-plugin-testing maven-plugin-tools maven-shade-plugin
maven-surefire maven-wagon plexus-archiver plexus-i18n
plexus-interpolation plexus-io plexus-resources plexus-velocity
jerboaa httpcomponents-client httpcomponents-core
john5342 javassist
kdaniel ant apache-commons-logging atinject glassfish-jsp-api
httpcomponents-client httpcomponents-core junit xalan-j2 xbean xz-java
ke4qqq jakarta-commons-httpclient
lef geronimo-jpa
mef maven-doxia
mizdebsk ant ant-contrib aopalliance apache-commons-beanutils
apache-commons-collections apache-commons-compress apache-commons-io
apache-commons-jxpath apache-commons-lang apache-commons-lang3
apache-commons-logging apache-commons-net apache-ivy apache-parent
apache-resource-bundles aqute-bnd atinject bcel beust-jcommander bsf bsh
byaccj cal10n easymock exec-maven-plugin felix-osgi-core felix-utils
geronimo-jms geronimo-jpa geronimo-parent-poms glassfish-jsp-api
google-guice guava20 hawtjni httpcomponents-client httpcomponents-core
httpcomponents-project jakarta-commons-httpclient jansi jansi-native
javacc javacc-maven-plugin javamail javapackages-tools javassist jaxen
jdepend jdependency jflex jsoup junit jvnet-parent maven
maven-antrun-plugin maven-archiver maven-artifact-resolver
maven-artifact-transfer maven-assembly-plugin maven-clean-plugin
maven-compiler-plugin maven-dependency-analyzer maven-dependency-plugin
maven-dependency-tree maven-doxia maven-doxia-sitetools maven-enforcer
maven-file-management maven-filtering maven-invoker maven-jar-plugin
maven-parent maven-plugin-build-helper maven-plugin-bundle
maven-plugin-testing maven-plugin-tools maven-plugins-pom
maven-reporting-api maven-reporting-impl maven-resolver
maven-script-interpreter maven-shade-plugin maven-shared-incremental
maven-shared-io maven-shared-utils maven-source-plugin maven-surefire
maven-verifier maven-wagon modello mojo-parent munge-maven-plugin
objectweb-pom os-maven-plugin osgi-compendium osgi-core
plexus-ant-factory plexus-archiver plexus-bsh-factory plexus-classworlds
plexus-cli plexus-compiler plexus-component-factories-pom
plexus-components-pom plexus-containers plexus-i18n plexus-interactivity
plexus-interpolation plexus-io plexus-languages plexus-resources
plexus-utils plexus-velocity qdox regexp sisu sisu-mojos slf4j
sonatype-oss-parent sonatype-plugins-parent velocity xalan-j2 xbean xmvn
xz-java
msrb ant javapackages-tools maven xmvn
pingou maven-shade-plugin
spike apache-commons-beanutils apache-commons-compress
apache-commons-io apache-commons-jxpath apache-commons-lang
apache-commons-logging apache-commons-net
yyang maven-plugin-testing maven-plugin-tools maven-wagon modello
plexus-containers
--
Mikolaj Izdebski
Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat
IRC: mizdebsk
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