On Tue, 2018-07-10 at 00:40 +0100, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 20:45, Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > [..] > > This is an approved by FESCo Fedora 29 change that needs to be done > > before the mass rebuild, which is scheduled for the 11th (2 days from now). > > > > 2018-07-11 Mass Rebuild > > > > ( see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/29/Schedule ) > > > > So, really the discussion time for this would have been best in March > > when the change was discussed on list). > > OK I found https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/29/ChangeSet#Tracking_15 > Which is pointing to > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1551327 .. which is > pointing to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Remove_GCC_from_BuildRoot > than this page points back to Biugzilla ticket. > If it was somewhere approved (I'm sure that somehow it was) because it > is so little possible to find about real discussion about proposal .. https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1851 One thing that *would* be nice is if, when citing meeting discussions on Change tickets, FESCo would *link to the meeting where the discussion happened*, so interested parties can read it. You can find it quite easily by looking at the ticket dates: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/fesco/fesco.2018-03-02-15.00.log.html but an explicit link would be nice. > I'm not sure did anyone from FESCo where really aware what they are > approving and/or did anyone where aware that some alternative > proposals have been send but generally not commented/ignored. The discussion thread on devel@ is a fundamental part of the Change process, so you can generally assume that FESCo members are going to have read it when they vote on a Change. Suggesting that they didn't know what they were voting for seems a bit insulting to the FESCo members... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/GDDD7VP65UCROZYEDCDOF2EPL6URIWEO/