On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 12:46:28PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le vendredi 29 juin 2018 à 12:19 -0400, Lokesh Mandvekar a écrit : > > FWIW, a fun read from the debian pkg-go list about packaging docker > > https://www.mail-archive.com/pkg-go-maintainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > t/msg00032.html > > And so what? I hit this problem months ago (and I have the github > tickets to prove it, with the Debian maintainers me-too-ing a few weeks > later). And some of those have been fixed since thanks to the reporting. > > The problem is not this message, that's upstream software needing > fixing, we handle tons of those in Fedora all year round, the problem is > that you seem to find normal *others* identified it, you seem to find > normal *not* *involving* yourself in the reporting and the fixing, you > seem to find normal functioning in some sort of fourth dimension where > FLOSS community fixing and collaborating happens to someone else. > > Go upstream state is a hard problem. But it needs to be solved because > no matter how you look at it there is a ton of go software that wants to > integrate with either kubernetes or docker. Stuff that is usually > *useful* for container users BTW. Stuff *you* could pull on for future > openshift enhancements if you made a minimum effort to nurture its > packaging in Fedora. Could you please give details on *stuff*, *integration* and *enhancements* you're talking about, and how exactly would unbundling help achieve that? Thanks, > > Making temporary exceptions for bits of bundling because they're too > broken to integrate right now is one thing. Passing on entirely and > letting the whole thing rot for years is something else entirely. > > There is maybe 95% of Go packages that kubernetes need that present no > technical challenge to package as rpm and use as rpm (some of this code > has not been changed upstream for years!). The 5% remaining problem > stuff could be bundled and then chipped at years after year till it's > not a problem anymore. It *needs* chipping at to improve the codebase > and the maintainability of it all. > > But you use this 5% as the reason not to play the game at all. > > Why ? > > -- > Nicolas Mailhot -- Lokesh IRC: lsm5 GPG: 0xC7C3A0DD https://keybase.io/lsm5 _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/TPJGTCCLH5MSZOZS6CEVSC6OYO6HWDG4/