On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 4:30 PM Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, 2018-06-27 at 16:25 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 02:54:07PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > > > > IMHO deprecate != remove, but rather mark for removal in some next release. > > > > Should the change be called differently? > > > > > > Especially since Yum has been called "yum-deprecated" for several > > > releases already. > > > > How about "Replace Yum 3 with Yum 4, powered by DNF"? This would bring > > us in line with what's happening in the Enterprise Linux space. > > > > (See > > https://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/ConfigManagementSIG/YUM4) > > But in Fedora land, we've spent several years selling the message "yum > is gone and replaced with this new thing called dnf". It would be > rather confusing to suddenly start selling the message "oh hey yum is > back only now it's sort of dnf but sort of not dnf". It's still dnf. In fact, I believe /usr/bin/dnf would even still exist. However, dnf has come significantly closer to yum functionality since it was first introduced and reuniting isn't a bad idea. I understand where you're coming from, but I think we should take the opportunity to correct now. We (and I do mean we as someone that pushed for not calling it yum) had valid reasons to separate it in the past, but those reasons are becoming increasingly invalid. Sticking with the dnf name is going to become a forced split going forward for little benefit. I'm happy to eat my own words and say we should probably focus around a single package manager name at this point. > It's different from the EL situation because EL never really had the > "dnf is the new thing" phase. If you're going from EL 7 to The Next EL > you're just going from yum 3 to "yum 4". Yeah, but if you play in both spaces continuing to call it "dnf" in Fedora and "yum4" in EL is forcing a mental break that doesn't really need to be there. josh _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/X445HR5HYOGMR5XNX7O3FT4CRJBE4TPT/
