>> > And in my opinion, it's not simple to say: OK if you have this size >> > ESP to start, you get this layout, and if it's bigger you get this >> > other layout, and if it's BIOS you have this 3rd layout. > > Chris, I have to say I'm glad you're part of the Fedora community - your > input on this topic has been very valuable! > >> Well, for fresh installs[1] there is no reason to have efi and bios use >> different layouts. You can just do this: > > When you say "install" it really matters to say install of *what* - a > desktop system, a physical server, a VM, etc. > > From my perspective (Fedora CoreOS developer) that straddles > both physical and cloud for the server case, the problem is that > the virtualized case, and in particular public cloud, and really > specifically EC2 - no one really cares about EFI to boot their VMs. > Except a special case here is "disaster recovery" scenarios where > a physical server is imaged and uploaded to the cloud as a VM, > and the topic of UEFI does come up there. Apparently most > implementations of this convert back to BIOS. There's a lot of clouds going to uEFI now due to the Windows requirement for secure boot so it's useful to have it on generic cloud images. > Don't get me wrong, I agree with Lennart (indirectly) in that it is > kind of crazy how influentual the "Windows dual boot for desktop" > case is on everything Fedora, which also includes physical > servers. But the virtualized case also pushes at this from the other > angle. > >> [root@ibm-p8-kvm-03-guest-02 ~]# fdisk -l /dev/sda >> Disk /dev/sda: 4 GiB, 4294967296 bytes, 8388608 sectors >> Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes >> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >> Disklabel type: gpt >> Disk identifier: 92035660-BEFD-45D5-9883-B2B91EC429D1 >> >> Device Start End Sectors Size Type >> /dev/sda1 2048 10239 8192 4M BIOS boot >> /dev/sda2 10240 1058815 1048576 512M EFI System > > I wouldn't *oppose* that; in fact if you (or someone else) > wanted to push for that with e.g. Fedora CoreOS, I'd be happy > to discuss it. But it's not like it has a truly compelling advantage > over what we ship today - it'd just be *another* weird variant > of things in the end right? The other advantage of having a uEFI partition is you can boot one image on hardware and VM, I'm planning that with IoT. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/J7TJFXMR6G2UKK3YYFX5GXK4X3PVUS6G/
