Re: Services that shouldn't be started in the first place: Was F29... hide.. grub

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On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 11:15 PM, Samuel Sieb <samuel@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 06/20/2018 05:53 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
I believe we're missing something fundamental here.  If a program/service etc. requires specific hardware to work
and it can't gracefully handle situations where that hardware is not present - it shouldn't be a default.

The way to handle this (and other similar situations) is to take away the default status until it can handle
situations where the hardware doesn't exist.  This is systems programming 101 - and frankly I am a
bit surprised it's a matter of debate.

There is a similar situation with other services, in particular the VM support services.  They are turned on by default, they would fail if not running on the specific VM, but they are set to be conditional on being run in that VM.  I don't see how that is different than this case.
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I provided three examples, that caused systemd to report it was running in degraded mode.  Would you care to provide a sample and the associated system error?
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