On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 8:13 AM, Ken Coar <kcoar@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 05/31/2018 06:06 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:54 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>> "CM" == Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: >>> >>> Plus, there's an upside: if you're hammering F11 or F8 or F12 or Esc or >>> whatever to try and get into the BIOS, and you miss it, then at least >>> you stop in grub instead of going straight into the OS. >> >> Ick. > > Why 'ick'? Because it's clumsy. You aren't getting exactly what you want or expect. And you have just as much of a chance of wanting GRUB but getting the firmware. Anyway, at the moment I still see this feature as rearranging the deck chairs. It exchanges problems we know, for problems we don't know. It's one kind of clunkiness for a new kind of clunkiness with added complexity. > If you're playing Rachmaninoff on the keyboard > during the boot sequence, I think it's a pretty clear indicator > that you want to interrupt it somehow. (Unless you're a cat.) > So I'd count any sort of interruption as a win, rather than > proceeding to a full boot. You're only indicating what you don't want to happen. You're not indicating what you do want to happen: firmware setup? firmware boot manager? firmware update? GRUB menu? The idea the user getting a musical chairs result is better than booting is not something I'm going to agree with. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/TGBECFZ5XZTJUSVBIETSS4BAZNBVVHBP/
