On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:43 PM, Andrew Lutomirski <luto@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > More concretely, perhaps plymouth could display such a message on its > splash screen for as long as its running. But the message should > probably be more accurate, along the lines of "Reboot and hold the > Shift key for more boot options". I like this general direction. The parts I'm skeptical about is boot times for some computers are really super short. And some hardware there is a delay in plymouth even coming up due to kernel messages, which reduces the time this message would be visible. So it'll take some spitballing and testing. But I think it's better to give instructions in plymouth than pretend there's any time to do it in GRUB. And also, I think the idea of faster boot times stated for Fedora 29 and Fedora 30 with firmware fast boot support means no USB control anyway. Yes GRUB itself can initialize USB with its own driver even if the firmware disables USB. But that'd defeat the point of faster booting. So on first boot there I'm expecting there isn't any working USB anyway - and if that's correct the proper place for messaging is plymouth. Another part I'm skeptical of, is the localization of this message in plymouth based on user's language selection: at installation time? And how it will be modified? And what languages will be supported? And all the commensurate testing that indicates. Etc. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/ALKJG3FMBNASDBPWAI7CSDY477FM6CFR/