On 23 May 2018 at 18:05, Miro Hrončok <mhroncok@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 23.5.2018 20:36, Ben Cotton wrote: >> >> And so if the python symlink is a separate package that always gets >> installed alongside python2, then is there really any benefit to this >> change? > > > This change indeed is not very beneficial to user installs. Except maybe for > highly experienced users who would like to ship their own /usr/bin/python > (except I don't think that's a good idea anyway). > > The benefit here is for the distro itself. So from the change request.. I thought it was for the users. ''' The upstream recommendation (PEP 394), which we try to follow in Fedora, is that users -- not distros, and not sysadmins -- should be in control of the python command. ''' To me that says /usr/bin/python should move to alternatives.. and the user is in control of it. That still does the items below.. > > It's a preparatory change for python2 removal that should make sure we don't > accidentally ship bits that rely on "python" being there and being python2. > > Breaking things is the only way we find sufficient for the packages to > change. Also, rendering the packages FTBFS would give us some idea about > them being (un)maintained. > > Dealing with all the python2/python3 thing, we get an impression that there > are plenty of packages simply using "python" laying dead for ages. We need > to know what's the real impact of removing python2 if we keep dragging them > around and keep them working. > > Packages that follow the guidelines don't need to worry. > Packages that don't will get a build failure reminder. > Packages that are dead will die (or somebody will resurrect them when > orphaned). > > -- > Miro Hrončok > -- > Phone: +420777974800 > IRC: mhroncok > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/4ESKA33RWOZ7RMCZEOYCOT5FMSVQZLEL/ -- Stephen J Smoogen. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/5HQSQPAULPV57V53US3VLSQVIRWWG6VZ/
