(Adding Kalev too ...) On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 12:28:33PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2018-05-21 at 10:49 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > > In general, non-user-visible groups exist for a couple of purposes. > Many exist to be used in the compose process - they define groups we > want to pull into images, but we don't want users to be able to use > them directly. Another case is the critical-path groups, which exist > specifically for the purpose of defining the contents of the 'critical > path' and not for any other purpose - it wouldn't make sense for these > to be visible in anaconda/dnf. > > > I'm looking at updating the groups in comps for MinGW and there is already > > a mingw32 group but it's not user visible. > > > > My plan would be to update it so there is a user visible group, something > > to the effect of "MinGW Development" that would install a basic mingw > > development environment for both 32 and 64 bit windows applications. > > > > Is there any special handling that needs to be done of the old group? Or > > should I leave it alone and just create the new group? > > I am always fond of referring to G.K. Chesterton when this sort of > question comes up: > > https://www.chesterton.org/taking-a-fence-down/ > > that is, before changing anything, figure out *why it is the way it is > now*. > > With that in mind...let's go detecting. The group was added in 2009 by > Richard Jones and, at that time, was user-visible: > > https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/c/70f5f78b356c97a3b79a1a38b9a2ff573ad5f316 > > It was made non-user-visible by Bill Nottingham, in this commit, for > the F18 release: > > https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/c/2adbfb571ed41f3b45618126d39613a279c4435b > > The commit message is: > > "Assorted cleanups & additions. > > 1) Mark a bunch of components that are showing up in the installer where they shouldn't as not-user-visible. > 2) Add some more proper clustering & HA groups rather than the old one." > > So, I guess the thing to do would be to ask Bill how he came to the > conclusion that this group "shouldn't" show up in the installer, and > whether that conclusion is truly/still valid. Let's CC him! And > Richard, too. > -- > Adam Williamson > Fedora QA Community Monkey > IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net > http://www.happyassassin.net -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com virt-df lists disk usage of guests without needing to install any software inside the virtual machine. Supports Linux and Windows. http://people.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-df/ _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/SVB2RDJ65RWHQZMFNCMSMEWHNI5O4B37/
