On 17 May 2018 at 07:34, Florian Weimer <fweimer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 05/17/2018 01:54 AM, Ian Kent wrote: >> >> I think you'll find NIS is still quite widely used. >> >> NIS Plus was an attempt to improve NIS but (AFAIK) it never became widely >> used. >> LDAP is another attempt to provide much of the table information provided >> by NIS >> but it is far more complicated to administer. >> >> NIS remains the simplest and easiest way to centrally manage (key, value) >> stores >> such as password, group, netgroup, hosts etc. so it has endured. > > > On the other hand, LDAP can be run over TLS, so that people need to do a bit > more than manipulate networks to gain unauthorized access to systems. > > I've also been told that people use NIS because it doesn't have a search > domain limit. But we removed that from Fedora 26 (in updates) and Red Hat > Enterprise Linux 7.5, so there should be one reason less to run NIS. > Most of the NIS I have run in has been set up and configured to be that way since the late 1980's or 1990's. The original hardware may only be in a museum, but it embedded itself in the site administration, training, and scripts. If the site has any ISO/ITIL/etc plans, NIS got implanted deeply into all of that documentation which will require acts of God (aka computer center hit by a meteorite) to remove. All of this makes the replacing of NIS a political and social struggle versus a technical one. That said, it doesn't mean an OS like Fedora can't put a "we aren't looking to support NIS after Fedora 34" line in the sand. Whether the tide of inevitability will come in and wash it away is another question. > Thanks, > Florian > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/NPV6KSUCEFVEFMUTYGMC7RVKWWLPH5RE/ -- Stephen J Smoogen. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/XYXUX4BFLY5DIUA657OM6FNF72GO4JII/