Re: Problems debugging problems... formerly Re: Wyland is a disaster

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On 24/01/18 15:06 -0700, stan wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 14:37:30 -0500
Przemek Klosowski <przemek.klosowski@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

For instance, I observed a reliable desktop session crash on exiting
Pan newsreader. I don't know how to debug it because it crashes the
session and I get logged out.

I think this is because the C++ used in Pan is incompatible with
current versions of g++ being used.

That's a funny way to say the package is buggy.

More specifically, when I saw this
issue in F25, I was able to end it by compiling the src.rpm with
optimization set to O0.  This type of thing also occurred in firefox
when the latest C++ was released, as it made some things commonly used
in earlier versions errors.

Yes, firefox code was buggy, it plays lots of nasty undefined tricks.

"It worked OK until now" doesn't mean something isn't a bug if you're
not following the rules of the language.

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