Re: F28 System Wide Change: Reduce Initial Setup Redundancy

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On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Michael Watters <wattersm@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 12/4/17 7:03 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
>> On 12/04/2017 03:11 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>> Also, for any kind of early boot troubleshooting even once a user is
>>> created, systemd emergency and rescue targets only accept root user
>>> login. If root user is disabled, it's impossible to do such early boot
>>> troubleshooting. So I think systemd needs a way to accept an admin
>>> user (wheel group) as an alternative login rather than only root.
>>
>> Yes, good point. This is a longstanding problem. Hopefully making
>> disabled root the default behavior for Fedora Workstation might nudge
>> the systemd developers into fixing it.
>>
>> Of course, Ubuntu has managed to survive the past year and a half with
>> the same nonfuctional rescue prompt, so I don't think it should block
>> this change.
>>
>> Michael


> Just because Ubuntu likes to shoot themselves in the foot doesn't mean
> that Fedora should do the same thing.

Well they might have a revolver with fewer bullets in it than Fedora,
just because ostensibly they're farther behind upstream.

The question is whether any Fedora testing depends on single user boot
(single, rescue.target, emergency.target), which with the proposed
feature to disable root, will render single user boot something of a
brick wall with a root login.

-- 
Chris Murphy
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