Hi all, sorry but I think this mail goes into the completely wrong direction… You claim that you don't want to point any fingers, but instead you blame *all* proven packagers, including me. I claim that I respect the policies for example. Only reason to use the rights are pure rebuilds for me, in case of soname bumps and already broken dependencies. So when things are already broken and a rebuild solves it. For changes in packages I used Bugzilla for long time. Now we have pagure with its very nice pull request mechanism I use in these cases to work with the maintainer. I know many other (proven) packagers doing the same. So blaming all of them… sorry… NO! I know what you want to say though, as I also know that *some* proven packagers abuse their rights. I also had that situation with few of my packages, but I managed this with the specific proven packager then. If some proven packagers abuses his access again and again, an issue has to be filed @FESCo, so they can instruct the packager and maybe remove the proven packager rights later in case of another abuse. Greetings, Christian On Monday 4 December 2017 13:33:09 CET David Kaspar [Dee'Kej] wrote: > Hello folks, > > I do not want to point any fingers, so I'll be adressing this to all proven > packagers... > > Stop messing with other people packages without trying to contact them via > e-mail/IRC, or openind new BZ! > Especially when you see they are actively maintaining the package and your > changes are not critical for Fedora to function/boot. > THIS IS NOT OKAY, AND YOU ARE ABUSING THE RIGHTS YOU WERE GIVEN! > > Fedora proven packagers policy ( > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Provenpackager_policy) explicitly says: > "Provenpackagers should try to communicate with owners of a package in > bugzilla, irc or email prior to making changes. They should be careful not > to change other people's packages needlessly and try to do the minimal > changes required to fix problems, ..." > > Last note to proven packagers: You're not BDFLs - so start acting according > to it. Thank you! > > David Kaspar [Dee'Kej] > *Associate Software Engineer* > *Brno, Czech Republic* > > RED HAT | TRIED. TESTED. TRUSTED. > Every airline in the Fortune 500 relies on Red Hat. > Find out why at Trusted | Red Hat <http://www.redhat.com/en/about/trusted>. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx