Re: streamlining fedora-release

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On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:45 PM Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 11/08/2017 07:13 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 10:03:30AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
>> <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> We have such special protections for the kernel (signing), firefox (trademarks),
>>> and for bootloaders (signing again), and some packages which don't consider
>>> the fedora repo the canonical location for sources.
>>>
>>
>> Hold the phone! When did we allow packages to not consider the Fedora
>> Dist-Git the canonical location for sources?
>
> For fedora-release the idea is that "upsteam" has a copy of the spec
> file, and the changes are supposed to be copied both ways. But I think
> there's no disagreement with retiring "upstream", so this issue should
> be moot soon (independently of the other stuff being discussed).

Well, this thread has had posts from 1 of the 4 maintainers.
I don't think it would be appropriate to change the package workflow
without input from the others.

IMHO, if the problem here is that preset requests aren't being processed
quickly enough, I'd be happy to add at least you (and any others that
showed over time they understand how presets work and can review PRs) to
review, create and merge PRs and build and push updates.

I don't know that anything else dramatic needs to happen here...


Well, the merging to the upstream repo is only the start of the process. There's also a really awkward creation of a new tarball that has to be imported over in dist-git, then the spec file updated, etc.

What I think Zbigniew is asking for is the ability to more quickly get *builds* including preset updates. Right now, even when the merges to the upstream repo happen quickly, it's often measured in weeks how long it takes to actually get a build of the Fedora RPM. 
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