The Code of Conduct applies to all Fedora participation [was Re: Why is Fx 57 in Updates Testing?]

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Wrong. The Code of Conduct applies to all participation in Fedora.

As I understand the history, your messages are on moderation because
... well, you keep doing this. That's not okay. If you had sent this
just to me privately as a way of blowing off steam, I might try to
personally talk you down. That's okay sometimes; everyone gets
frustrated. But, anticipation that your message will be rejected by a
moderator is no excuse.


On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 03:59:55PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> since my mails to the devel list are rejcted anyways the code of
> conduct no longer applies to me
> 
> Am 12.10.2017 um 15:51 schrieb Matthew Miller:
> >
> >Harald, you've had plenty of warnings. When you go off like this, it
> >stops the conversation from being about the policies and problems.
> >Don't do that. It is not productive or constructive. At the very, very
> >minimum, it is a terrible way to get the results you want. But it is
> >also against the Fedora Code of Conduct, which you must abide by when
> >participating in Fedora.
> >
> >I know there is other stuff going on in that thread, but that is long
> >and this is in my personal inbox, so it's getting first attention.
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 09:33:21AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> >>IT IS NOT because the maintainer acts like a moron
> >>
> >>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1500806#c13
> >>
> >>
> >>--- Comment #13 from Martin Stransky <stransky@xxxxxxxxxx> ---
> >>Sorry but the update stays there unless there's a general agreement
> >>it should
> >>be removed. If you feel so please file FESCo ticket for that.
> >>
> >>i slowly get tired enough to disable updates-testing at all and do
> >>what you want guys in the future, have fun without testers which
> >>means you maintainers need to do more quality work alltogether when
> >>you lose your last resort between build something and the big
> >>userbase
> >>
> >>Am 12.10.2017 um 02:36 schrieb Adam Williamson:
> >>>On Wed, 2017-10-11 at 17:13 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> >>>>On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Martin Stransky <stransky@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I'm surprised that people use updates-testing for stable/production
> >>>>>machines, have problem with handling the update and act like newbies. If
> >>>>>you can't handle that, don't use that. Fedora is really a bleeding edge so
> >>>>>don't complain you get new software with new features - even as testing
> >>>>>only :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Where is Matthew Miller when you need him?  No one said anything about
> >>>>
> >>>>using updates-testing for stable/productioin machines.  And the fact that
> >>>>you're implying that Fedora itself is bleeding edge and not really suited
> >>>>for production raises a huge red flag.
> >>>>
> >>>>i have no doubt when this whole situation is reviewed logical minds will
> >>>>prevail, but in the meantime you've taken advantage of a loophole.
> >>>>Congratulations.
> >>>
> >>>I think you're getting a bit needlessly confrontational at this point.
> >>>The issue's been sufficiently well raised now. Let's try to move
> >>>forward productively from here...
> 

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