Re: Why is Fx 57 in Updates Testing?

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Harald, you've had plenty of warnings. When you go off like this, it
stops the conversation from being about the policies and problems.
Don't do that. It is not productive or constructive. At the very, very
minimum, it is a terrible way to get the results you want. But it is
also against the Fedora Code of Conduct, which you must abide by when
participating in Fedora.

I know there is other stuff going on in that thread, but that is long
and this is in my personal inbox, so it's getting first attention. 


On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 09:33:21AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> IT IS NOT because the maintainer acts like a moron
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1500806#c13
> 
> 
> --- Comment #13 from Martin Stransky <stransky@xxxxxxxxxx> ---
> Sorry but the update stays there unless there's a general agreement
> it should
> be removed. If you feel so please file FESCo ticket for that.
> 
> i slowly get tired enough to disable updates-testing at all and do
> what you want guys in the future, have fun without testers which
> means you maintainers need to do more quality work alltogether when
> you lose your last resort between build something and the big
> userbase
> 
> Am 12.10.2017 um 02:36 schrieb Adam Williamson:
> >On Wed, 2017-10-11 at 17:13 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> >>On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Martin Stransky <stransky@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I'm surprised that people use updates-testing for stable/production
> >>>machines, have problem with handling the update and act like newbies. If
> >>>you can't handle that, don't use that. Fedora is really a bleeding edge so
> >>>don't complain you get new software with new features - even as testing
> >>>only :)
> >>>
> >>>Where is Matthew Miller when you need him?  No one said anything about
> >>
> >>using updates-testing for stable/productioin machines.  And the fact that
> >>you're implying that Fedora itself is bleeding edge and not really suited
> >>for production raises a huge red flag.
> >>
> >>i have no doubt when this whole situation is reviewed logical minds will
> >>prevail, but in the meantime you've taken advantage of a loophole.
> >>Congratulations.
> >
> >I think you're getting a bit needlessly confrontational at this point.
> >The issue's been sufficiently well raised now. Let's try to move
> >forward productively from here...
> 

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Matthew Miller
<mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Fedora Project Leader
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