Am 11.10.2017 um 21:08 schrieb Martin Stransky: > I believed that the update-testing repository is intended for testing and it's > used by power users who can handle that, exclude the package from testing if > needed, downgrade broken package and so on. > > I'm surprised that people use updates-testing for stable/production machines, > have problem with handling the update and act like newbies. If you can't > handle that, don't use that. Fedora is really a bleeding edge so don't > complain you get new software with new features - even as testing only :) > > Also, I think your expectation about dramatic change of new extension > availability for FF57 last month before the final release is false. "dramatic change" seems a bit ... dramatic ;-) However I know at least one somewhat popular addon (NoScript) which is planned to have a release just before the Firefox 27 release (https://noscript.net/getit#devel). So the push to F26 updates-testing really hurts some users more than necessary. Other than that I think Fedora maintainers worked hard to get away from the perception of "unstable/bleeding edge distro" to a more "provides new software but still reliable". I think this is not about "having updates-testing enabled and not being able to handle breakage" - in the end all the complaints came from users who can "handle" the breakage. I'd like to echo other's concerns that I treat "updates-testing" very similar to "updates" just with the additional caveat that it might be a tad bit less tested. Please let's keep it that way. fs _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx