Re: plan to update F27 to systemd-235

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On 9 October 2017 at 11:30, Solomon Peachy <pizza@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:17:31PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> The killing of logged out user processes, without record and with
> no option to disable it after compilation in release 230 was another
> one.

Oh, that's utter, unffettered BS.  That feature was there from the
beginning.  v230 changed it from defaulting off to defaulting on, and
that was documented in the release notes.  "disabling" that change was
no more than a matter of changing one line in one config file.

Meanwhile, the folks (eg Debian) who compiled-out that feature as a
response (instead of changing the default back to off) are the ones
responsible from introducing a functional regression, as it meant that
admins who *wanted* that functionality found it no longer working.

And incidently, the only actual *users* affected by this had all
explcitly opted in to use bleeding-edge Linux distributions, such as
Fedora Rawhide and Debian Unstable.  These bleeding-edge distros
routinely have far more serious "regressions" than that.

That whole kerfuffle was a whole lot of sound and fury made over a
development process working exactly as it was supposed to, and the
distribution model once again showed its value.

> Do not get me *started* on the "systemd knows better than you do
> or than syslinux how many active connections MySQL should support,
> we'll just reset that behind your back" that I encountered recently.

This sounds like you have a beef with the folks who wrote the mysql
systemd unit file(s) and/or its packagers, not systemd itself.
Especially as MySQL isn't distributed by Fedora nor does a unit file for
MySQL come with the upstream (or Fedora) systemd releases.

 - Solomon
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Although there is much I agree with in your sentiment ... in the interests of accuracy Fedora does still ship MySQL ... it's just that MariaDB is the default MySQL implementation and for the other project you need to install community-mysql-server ...

See:


Also these:



 
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