On Sat, 2017-08-05 at 11:32 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > This is garbage. How the heck are we supposed to do crap like this > when Koji itself isn't built to support this kind of thing freely? It's really not that difficult. You do a scratch build or build in mock, then test building the dependencies in mock. Or you request a Koji tag, or use COPR. Could tooling make it easier? Sure. Is the fact that we don't have super nice tooling an excuse for breaking Rawhide? No. > We don't have a concept of projects in Koji where people can do these > things without affecting the Rawhide package set, Sure we do, it's called tags. > and COPR has no > dependency tracking to indicate what depends on it in other > repositories/linked projects, How is this at all relevant to the purpose of using it to test dependent rebuilds for something like a soname bump? > We keep pushing for this stuff, but we're not even bothering to make > it easier for packagers to keep up. What about the poor souls who > aren't proven packagers? They're out of luck and they get blamed for > "breaking Rawhide". I'm not at all interested in blaming anyone for anything. I'm interested in Rawhide not being broken. Note that you don't need commit rights to do a scratch build, mock build or COPR build of something. Note that I suggested the person doing the poppler build should have *tested* that texlive built against it, which is something they do not need any texlive commit rights to do. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx