On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 01:24:21PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> It is really sad that FESCo is still maintaining this completely unrealistic >> kamikaze schedule. We have seen from the fallout of the mass rebuild that >> this is absolutely impossible to hold, the release will be completely broken >> that way. >> >> There need to be at least 6 months from the Fedora n release (the ACTUAL >> release, not the planned one) to the Fedora n+1 release, or there is no time >> to do development or even bugfixing. The schedule has less than 4 months. It >> should be obvious that this cannot possibly work. > > It's going to be a challenge but I think we can do it. I don't think > sliding around the calendar (as actual release date + six months > causes) is good either — in fact, I think overall it is worse. > > Because it is a short release, we should focus on a few key changes and > otherwise limit scope as much as possible. From my perspective, the > things we should focus on this time around are infrastructure related: > > - enabling CI for Atomic Host, including the Pagure front-end and PR > workflow > - modularity stuff for Fedora Server (and, because of the timeframe, > definitely scoping that to Server and not the whole distro) > - validation test automation and the no-more-alphas project. > > Collectively, are there other F27 changes that seem really key to > release this year? If possible, I'd like to target any bigger changes > for F28 (or, unlink them from the release itself). Checking the scope of the F27 [1] I see one more Change "Graphical Applications as Flatpaks" [2] we might want to release asap. At least I see this Change as a strategical one. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/27/ChangeSet [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Graphical_Applications_as_Flatpaks Regards, Jan > And, remember, the other side of this scheduling plan is that F28 > should definitely come in May (and ideally early May). If we followed > the sliding plan, we'd be targetting F27 at January, releasing it in > March, and having F28 next December. > > -- > Matthew Miller > <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Fedora Project Leader > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Jan Kuřík Platform & Fedora Program Manager Red Hat Czech s.r.o., Purkynova 99/71, 612 45 Brno, Czech Republic _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
