On 07/14/2017 05:04 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 14 July 2017 at 20:28, Andreas Tunek <andreas.tunek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Is this really more reliable than using dnf (for graphical packages >> like Recepies and Builder)? > > It's hugely more reliable. You can't actually trust rpm to do anything > atomically, and this is the main reason we force upgrade to be offline > in the workstation product. Just doing this one step reduced the > number of people experiencing the dead-system-after-upgrading bugs by > two order of magnitude, but it SUCKS to have to reboot to apply > application updates. Doing live updates with rpm is a bit like doing > maintenance on your car engine while driving down the freeway. Most of > the time it's fine, and you feel awesome. 0.001% of the time you die > in a huge fireball. I'm sure some people are aware but for those who aren't it is worth noting that we have an entire edition (atomic host) that is built around atomic updates for rpm content. We are starting to make progress with a workstation variant that is built on the same technology. [1] https://getfedora.org/atomic/download/ [2] https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/26/Workstation/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Workstation-ostree-x86_64-26-1.5.iso _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx