Hi all, On 02/05/2017 09:10 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > > This also mostly explains the why of this change, > except for why also bring it to Fedora 25 and not > just to Fedora 26 and later? > > The main reason for this is a non-technical reason, > we (as in the Fedora project) have quite vocally > publicly promised we would do so: > https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2016/11/01/discrete-graphics-and-fedora-workstation-25/ > This is *not* a reason for me to push! This just means announcements came too early (also I don't consider that blog post an announcement, an announcement would be something from Fedora, e.g. in release notes). I searched the wiki and found https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Vendor_Neutral_libGL So my questions: * Why is that change still marked as incomplete and even more important: * Why is it not proposed for F26 (now the deadline is over, but IMHO it should get in)? > > And from a technical pov it is ready, despite all the noise > about this update for F25, 2 issues where found with it > in updates-testing and both of these issues have been fixed. Thank you very much for investigating and fixing! Although I'm still not a fan of pushing to F25, the fixes are *very* important for F26! > > The biggest issue with the update was that it broke > Sway (specifically libwlc) and I handled that badly after > working on this for a long time I was in a rush and I > decided to push this update to F25 updates-testing anyways > which I should NOT have done. I should have first fixed the > Sway issue and I apologize for my bad handling of this. > > Note in case it has not been clear, that the Sway issue has > been fixed now and I've send the libwlc fix for this upstream > where it has already been merged. Again, thank you very much :) In general I'm still against pushing (although I gave +1 for the sway fix) because I think: * It violates our guidelines for updates as it breaks things which have to be fixed in the applications themselves (which proofs that it is an incompatible update) * I'm still sceptical that it will not break anything @users. So my suggestion: * Propose as F26 system wide change, it should be ignored that the deadline is already over as the change is implemented and mostly tested * Don't push @F25 Greetings, Christian _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx