Re: F26 System Wide Change: Python Classroom Lab

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On 1.2.2017 16:38, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
On 02/01/2017 10:34 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote:
On 1.2.2017 16:31, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
On 01/31/2017 02:29 AM, Jan Kurik wrote:
= System Wide Change: Python Classroom Lab =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/PythonClassroomLab

Change owner(s):
* Miro Hrončok <mhroncok AT redhat DOT com>
* SIGs/Python <python-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>


A new Python Classroom Lab will be created in 3 variants: Workstation
based, Docker based and Vagrant based. It's an important step for our
Fedora Loves Python initiative. The main audience are Python teachers
and workshop instructors.


== Detailed Description ==
A new comps packages group with Python development tools will be
created and a new Lab (or Spin) for teaching Python or Python related
topics will be available from labs.fedoraproject.org as well as from
the Docker Hub and Vagrant Atlas.

A work in progress for the lab is available on GitHub.

The Lab will contain:
* Python 3.6 including the python3-devel package
* Python 2.7 including the python2-devel package
* PyPy 3
* tox
* virtualenv
* IPython console for both Python 2 and 3
* Jupyter Notebook with Python 2 and 3 kernels (if this gets into
Fedora in time)
* offline documentation for Python 2 and 3
* basic toolchain for building C and C++ extensions and valgrind
* git
* nano, vim, ssh client, curl, wget
* devel packages for commonly used dependencies of packages on the
Python Package Index
* * libxml2-devel
* * libyaml-devel
...

The Workstation based lab will also contain:
* Basic GNOME
* Terminal emulator
* Text editor
* PDF reader
* Web browser
* Image viewer
* ...and possibly other utilities

But it will not include multimedia and virtualization support, office
suite, e-mail client.




What's the advantage here vs. providing a "Python Classroom Lab" install target
in GNOME Software that allows you to turn any Fedora Workstation installation
into a Classroom Lab?

1) The other two deliverables listed in the change proposal.
2) The ability to download an live iso and dd it to a flash drive, hand it over
to students and just works (i.e. also offline)

Is there a specific reason you do NOT want the things you listed above?
Yes. Make it smaller - it's a classroom lab, so no need for stuff like e-mail
client.


OK, I see why providing a Spin makes sense, but I'd still really like to see it
*also* provided as a GNOME Software install target. That way, people running
Fedora today can have an easy way to play with it without having to figure out
how to install a comps group or boot an entirely new installer.

As long as it is technically possible... could you please provide a link to the relevant documentation?

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