On 02/01/2017 10:34 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 1.2.2017 16:31, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> On 01/31/2017 02:29 AM, Jan Kurik wrote: >>> = System Wide Change: Python Classroom Lab = >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/PythonClassroomLab >>> >>> Change owner(s): >>> * Miro Hrončok <mhroncok AT redhat DOT com> >>> * SIGs/Python <python-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>> >>> A new Python Classroom Lab will be created in 3 variants: Workstation >>> based, Docker based and Vagrant based. It's an important step for our >>> Fedora Loves Python initiative. The main audience are Python teachers >>> and workshop instructors. >>> >>> >>> == Detailed Description == >>> A new comps packages group with Python development tools will be >>> created and a new Lab (or Spin) for teaching Python or Python related >>> topics will be available from labs.fedoraproject.org as well as from >>> the Docker Hub and Vagrant Atlas. >>> >>> A work in progress for the lab is available on GitHub. >>> >>> The Lab will contain: >>> * Python 3.6 including the python3-devel package >>> * Python 2.7 including the python2-devel package >>> * PyPy 3 >>> * tox >>> * virtualenv >>> * IPython console for both Python 2 and 3 >>> * Jupyter Notebook with Python 2 and 3 kernels (if this gets into >>> Fedora in time) >>> * offline documentation for Python 2 and 3 >>> * basic toolchain for building C and C++ extensions and valgrind >>> * git >>> * nano, vim, ssh client, curl, wget >>> * devel packages for commonly used dependencies of packages on the >>> Python Package Index >>> * * libxml2-devel >>> * * libyaml-devel >>> ... >>> >>> The Workstation based lab will also contain: >>> * Basic GNOME >>> * Terminal emulator >>> * Text editor >>> * PDF reader >>> * Web browser >>> * Image viewer >>> * ...and possibly other utilities >>> >>> But it will not include multimedia and virtualization support, office >>> suite, e-mail client. >>> >> >> >> >> What's the advantage here vs. providing a "Python Classroom Lab" install target >> in GNOME Software that allows you to turn any Fedora Workstation installation >> into a Classroom Lab? > > 1) The other two deliverables listed in the change proposal. > 2) The ability to download an live iso and dd it to a flash drive, hand it over > to students and just works (i.e. also offline) > >> Is there a specific reason you do NOT want the things you listed above? > Yes. Make it smaller - it's a classroom lab, so no need for stuff like e-mail > client. > OK, I see why providing a Spin makes sense, but I'd still really like to see it *also* provided as a GNOME Software install target. That way, people running Fedora today can have an easy way to play with it without having to figure out how to install a comps group or boot an entirely new installer.
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