On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, 2016-12-05 at 16:10 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: >> It was by design, though — for a while, when a schedule slipped, we >> planned the next schedule as 6 or 7 months from the actual release. >> This time, we tried to keep it to October even though the previous >> release had slipped, resulting in the short schedule. I'm the person >> who pushed for that (because of the value of calendar consistency), >> and >> I'm now saying it was a mistake. > > I still think it's a good idea for Workstation. We really need to be > seen as the leading GNOME distro: that's what gets GNOME people using > Workstation and recommending that other people install it, then those > people recommend it... I think it's part of the story behind our recent > rise in popularity. Right now we are that leading GNOME distro because > we usually follow about 1-2 months behind a GNOME release. It's a huge > advantage over, say, Ubuntu, where people complain about needing PPAs > to get the latest software and upstream has already moved on to newer > versions half a year ago. Right now this is one of our biggest > strengths as a distro, and your proposal would throw that away. So > there is real serious risk of changing this. > > Also, if we do one release per year, then I expect most of the Red Hat > developers who work on GNOME would start using some unstable copr to > get the latest GNOME; this means way fewer developers using and testing > the latest release, since it's too stale. (I dunno what I'd do myself, > stick around and use a GNOME copr, or try to go improve Tumbleweed...?) I'd expect .1 or +1 would rebase on the most recent GNOME. > I'm even concerned by schedule slippage into June; this is the time of > year that I see complaints that Fedora is too old, go install Arch. I'd > prefer that we always target early May and November releases for > Workstation. I know, the early May is hard for GCC, but GCC isn't our > user experience and I'm sure it can wait until the fall releases. May is also good in that it's not yet "summer time". -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx