On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 09:04:11AM -0800, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > >> > So, first, putting together a release is a lot of work. If we're >> > stepping on the toes of the previous releases, are we wasting some of >> > that work? >> I don't see the relevance of that observation. A new version, >> whenever it is released will impact the uptake of the previous. If > > I'm saying in this case, we released it before the previous version had > a chance to make as much impact as it could have. > > >> > Second, from a press/PR point of view, I think we get less total press >> > from having twice-a-year releases than we would from just having one >> > big one. When it's so frequent, it doesn't feel like news. >> Basing our release strategy on the fickleness of press coverage is >> subjective and isn't going to do give any consistent results. > > But I didn't say this was due to fickleness. In any case, a release is > *definitely* a marketing event as well as a technical one, and PR is a > legitimate input into planning them. > > > >> > Third, the modularity initiative and the "generational core" give >> > us an opportunity to rethink how we are doing releases entirely. >> Kevin's comment raised some important concerns about this. > > I don't want to misrepresent Kevin's concerns, but as I understand > them, they're with modularity in conception rather than to do with > scheduling. I guess there's an intersection in that if we can't do > modularity at all it makes the particular release cycle I suggested > much harder to do — but overall I think it's a separate conversation. I'm not sure it's much harder to do without modularity. Right now Fedora could do a Fedora 26 release without any conventional release media for server and workstation, by just using dnf system-upgrade and gnome-software. And in a sense that's more like how the incremental release for rpm-ostree based installations end up working out anyway. Would Fedora 26.1 be a branch off Rawhide, or a branch off Fedora 26 with relaxed rules about what sorts of things can be significantly updated? A huge part of the effort for each release is sun baking the rawhide. And what effect does a once a year major release have on Rawhide? Or what effect do we want it to have? -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
