> It's called "pre-Extras", nothing more, and we're still in the middle > of nowhere. > > CVS is a step forward. Pre-Extras is a step backward. At fedora.us we > have the stable/testing/unstable classification and the separate > "pending" repositories, which we can use rather freely. With > pre-Extras, we don't even have a package submission policy. Package > updates for pre-Extras are done via bugzilla.fedora.us, because > nothing else is documented and CVS has not even been opened for > fedora.us trusted developers yet. Why are package updates for pre-extras done by bugzilla.fedora.us. All the packages in cvs are in red hat's bugzilla. > It is my impression some key people wait for FUDCon and hope for > wonders. While that may be an option for those who plan the official > Fedora Extras and else have not been involved so far, it is unbearable > for the active fedora.us and pre-extras supporters. Where did you get this impression from? I'm sorry to hear you don't like pre-extras, I was trying to help out by building those things and putting them up. -sv