On Mon, 2016-10-24 at 16:12 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 07:39:19PM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > > Hmmm. I think I don't consider it duplicated information. A commit > > messages in the VCS afaics is something that is written for other > > developers that want to understand/track changes (now or in the future). > > This was my first thought too -- but then, there's also dist-git, which > may be what this refers to. It is, but the distinction still holds. The intended readers of the dist-git commit messages are the distribution packagers: the package 'developers'. The intended readers of the RPM changelogs are the RPM consumers, i.e. users (albeit users with the moderate level of savvy necessary to read RPM changelogs). > I wouldn't be completely opposed to phasing > out in-package changelogs in favor of some tool which presents that to > users in a nice way. (dnf plugin!) Please, no, don't do that. RPM is a standard, the changelog is part of that. It would be pretty crappy to just declare we're going to stop using RPM changelogs and bake some random new idea into our distro's packaging tools instead. Note that we can still read RPM changelogs back to 1998, but it's a lot harder and/or impossible (I'm still not quite sure if anyone still actually has a copy of the data) to read all the CVS commits from when we were storing packages in CVS, let alone whatever we were doing before that. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx