On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 4:17 AM, Tomasz Torcz <tomek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 11:11:12PM -0400, Garry Williams wrote: >> On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 7:56:41 AM EDT Chris Murphy wrote: >> > I have KillUserProcesses=yes set in Fedora 24 for some time now. I'm >> > noticing that I still often have 90 second delays if I restart or >> > shutdown, more than half the time. >> >> Yup. Me too. >> >> > I have no idea how to collect >> > more information on why I'm experiencing this. >> >> Yup. Me too. > > Have you tried https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/#index2h1 ? Yes I have and there is only 90 gap in the journal where nothing is even recorded. What I know is when there is this hang, it's due to a stop job waiting on the user session. I don't know why a direct restart while still logged in appears to always result in a hang; while log out immediately works, and subsequent restart from GDM immediately works. The hang within gnome-shell on a restart or shutdown request is actually a brutal hang. I have no keyboard control, the entire UI is locked up, I can't get to a console. This is a clean installation of Fedora 24, it's not an upgrade. -- Chris Murphy -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx