Re: F25 System Wide Change: KillUserProcesses=yes by default

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On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 4:17 AM, Tomasz Torcz <tomek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 11:11:12PM -0400, Garry Williams wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 7:56:41 AM EDT Chris Murphy wrote:
>>> > I have KillUserProcesses=yes set in Fedora 24 for some time now. I'm
>>> > noticing that I still often have 90 second delays if I restart or
>>> > shutdown, more than half the time.
>>>
>>> Yup.  Me too.
>>>
>>> > I have no idea how to collect
>>> > more information on why I'm experiencing this.
>>>
>>> Yup.  Me too.
>>
>>   Have you tried https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/#index2h1 ?
>
>
> Yes I have and there is only 90 gap in the journal where nothing is
> even recorded. What I know is when there is this hang, it's due to a
> stop job waiting on the user session. I don't know why a direct
> restart while still logged in appears to always result in a hang;
> while log out immediately works, and subsequent restart from GDM
> immediately works.
>
> The hang within gnome-shell on a restart or shutdown request is
> actually a brutal hang. I have no keyboard control, the entire UI is
> locked up, I can't get to a console. This is a clean installation of
> Fedora 24, it's not an upgrade.


Ergo, from my perspective, the feature of KillUserProcesses=yes
doesn't even really completely work at present. It's not solving the
problem it's intended to solve, unless I first log out and then
restart, which is sorta ick. Not quite pointless, but fairly
pointless.


Chris Murphy
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