On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 4:17 AM, Tomasz Torcz <tomek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 11:11:12PM -0400, Garry Williams wrote: >>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 7:56:41 AM EDT Chris Murphy wrote: >>> > I have KillUserProcesses=yes set in Fedora 24 for some time now. I'm >>> > noticing that I still often have 90 second delays if I restart or >>> > shutdown, more than half the time. >>> >>> Yup. Me too. >>> >>> > I have no idea how to collect >>> > more information on why I'm experiencing this. >>> >>> Yup. Me too. >> >> Have you tried https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/#index2h1 ? > > > Yes I have and there is only 90 gap in the journal where nothing is > even recorded. What I know is when there is this hang, it's due to a > stop job waiting on the user session. I don't know why a direct > restart while still logged in appears to always result in a hang; > while log out immediately works, and subsequent restart from GDM > immediately works. > > The hang within gnome-shell on a restart or shutdown request is > actually a brutal hang. I have no keyboard control, the entire UI is > locked up, I can't get to a console. This is a clean installation of > Fedora 24, it's not an upgrade. Ergo, from my perspective, the feature of KillUserProcesses=yes doesn't even really completely work at present. It's not solving the problem it's intended to solve, unless I first log out and then restart, which is sorta ick. Not quite pointless, but fairly pointless. Chris Murphy -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx