Re: i686 as secondary arch?

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On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Stephen John Smoogen <smooge@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 5 July 2016 at 06:46, Florian Weimer <fweimer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On 07/05/2016 11:09 AM, Adrian Reber wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 05, 2016 at 10:04:03AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Timely article in the Register today:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/07/05/linux_letting_go_32bit_builds_on_the_way_out/
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been thinking about this as i686 is so often broken that I've now
>>>>> stopped bothering to test it in the libguestfs tests that I do on
>>>>> Rawhide:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/libguestfs.git/commit/?id=aa63cef2d7679e1906551ef4e46c2e9a8861b56c
>>>>>
>>>>> If you need to run an i686 virtual machine based on Rawhide, my
>>>>> experience is that it's more likely than not that it won't boot, and
>>>>> no one cares.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do we have stats for the relative proportion of i686 vs x86-64
>>>>> downloads?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No really because of mirrors etc, but mirror manager stats from Feb
>>>> (FPL DevConf talk) list i686 as around 20% unique IP hits, that
>>>> doesn't take into account proxies/NAT using same IP etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> What clients are requesting from MirrorManager can also be seen here:
>>>
>>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mirrormanager/statistics/2016-07-05/archs
>>
>>
>> These statistics do not cover package downloads of i686 packages which are
>> part of the x86_64 repositories, do they?
>>
>> I think the numbers are also skewed by the fact that EPEL 7 is not available
>> for i686, which is not of direct relevance to Fedora.  (The reason why it's
>> missing is not lack of demand, but lack of a publicly available build root
>> for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 on i686.)
>>
>
> Here is a graph for just Fedora OS from time immemorial of Fedora
> using a 7 day moving average.
>
> https://smooge.fedorapeople.org/simple_stats/fedora-hardware-full-ma.png
>
> I hope this is helpful.. [I am working on ways to make this available
> regularly but am up to my neck in spam accounts so don;'t expect
> soon.]

That doesn't seem to distinguish between "ppc" and "ppc64" at first
glance, which I would think we'd want it to.  Particularly since "ppc"
isn't a thing that has existed in installable form for a while now.
Further, it doesn't distinguish between "ppc64" and "ppc64p7", which
are actually separate architectures in the koji sense.

I realize the lines might be virtually invisible on the graph with a
further breakdown, but I'm curious if the statistics themselves are
being gathered properly there.

josh
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