As many others have expressed, third-party RPMs tend to
be done very poorly, Oracle Java is a good bad example. That said, if
it's something a user wants to install on their system, that's their
prerogative, but it's not part of Fedora and shouldn't be. What we could
do is make it easier to install and enable third-party repos, then you
actively have to enable them and supposedly you know what you're doing
(or are blindly following something you found on Google). For me, I use
repos from two providers, Google and RPM Fusion. I think that's pretty
common I add the repos in a script I use for new desktop builds. For
Google I cat out a repo file and for RPM Fusion I pull down their repo
RPM. Being able to dnf install a third party repo would be a cleaner and
I wouldn't mind this approach. I would guess there's no legality
concern because it's just adding a repo file, but that's for the lawyers
to decide.
As far as GUI tools for installing and managing
software. I never use them and I think that's common for "power users".
That said, I could care less what they do, but expect I can have the
same capabilities on the command line, and would expect those
capibilities to be available through DNF.On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, 2016-06-15 at 08:57 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote:
> I have far more worries about third party rpms which can put files
> anyway, run any scriptlets they like at install time, and generally
> interfere with the system as a whole.
Yeah, I'm not sure I like this part of the plan either. The goal is to
make it as easy as possible to package software for Fedora, but I'm
thinking that anyone who wants to distribute an RPM repo with metadata
enabled in Fedora ought to be required to follow our packaging
guidelines. That Chrome RPM seems like a weird case... but if Google's
RPM sucks, just imagine what other vendors will do. You can horribly
break the user's system with a bad RPM; there was a recent "dnf
uninstalls sqlite" bug caused by some third-party RPM that bundles
sqlite and also Provides it....
With Flatpak, it's indeed less of an issue. Your Flatpak might suck,
but it can't hurt the system.
Michael
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