On 05/29/2016 05:14 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Paul Wouters <paul@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> If there is a systematic >> problem of badly written code leaving orphaned code running when >> a user logs out, then that broken code should be fixed instead of >> adding another layer of process management. systemd is not capable >> of interpreting the user's intent. > > That isn't working. Users are constantly running into restart and > shutdown delays. Troubleshooting this to find out what process is > holding things up is totally non-obvious. Identifying the process is > half the problem, and then getting it fixed and released to Fedora can > be months, by which time some other process is affected. But the delays in system shutdown/restart were introduced by systemd in the first place. I would argue that these delays are much too long. -- Orion Poplawski Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 NWRA, Boulder/CoRA Office FAX: 303-415-9702 3380 Mitchell Lane orion@xxxxxxxx Boulder, CO 80301 http://www.nwra.com -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
