Re: Unretire surf

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On Tue, 2016-04-19 at 14:17 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 10:53:39AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > On Seg, 2016-04-18 at 23:54 +0300, Alexander Ploumistos wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > It's been a little over two hours since I started fedora-review and
> > > > it seems I'm hitting these two bugs:
> > > > * dnf repoquery --resolve is extremely slow #1279538  
> > > I already change priority and severity of #1279538 to urgent

> > Just as a side note, I don't know anyone who actually uses or cares
> > about these fields in Fedora land. IMHO you are much better off just
> > explaining why the bug is important or what it blocks. 

> These fields are effectively useless because they can be changed by
> anybody. Even leaving aside the cynical thought that most people would
> put their own problems as top priority / worst severity, everyone has
> their own sense of what the scale ought to mean. For example, to one
> person, "extremely slow" might be top-tier, but to another, that should
> be only used for data-loss issues. For some people, it's should mean
> prioritizion of _all effort_; for other people, it might just be "of
> all bugs in this single package, this is the most urgent currently".
> 
> This kind of prioritization only really works when everyone using it is
> in alignment about... well, _priorities_.

For the record, we do in fact have a policy on this:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow#Priority_and_Severity

I wouldn't exactly claim that it's universally followed, but it *is*
there. I do still follow those rules for 'severity' when dealing with
bugs, for whatever it's worth.

It is not in fact true that they "can be changed by anybody" (unless
the BZ config has been changed in the last few years and I missed it,
which is entirely possible). Only people with 'editbugs' privileges can
change them. Lots of people have 'editbugs' privileges one way or
another, though.

> Right now, our only real method for prioritizing bugs at the distro
> level is the blocker and freeze exception process at release time.
> It *would* be nice to have some _other_ general method, but no one has
> put the time or effort into figuring out what one would be like (let
> alone making or maintaining it).

Yes they have. Several times! Unfortunately, no-one has ever stuck to
it for very long.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers is still there, blowing in
the wind...that was the last one.
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