On 10 February 2016 at 14:57, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Marketing are aware the package exists ... I worked with them on the Fedora
> Magazine article(s) after all ... even got a >5000 view badge for it! ;)
Fantastic.
I was rather happy with the result.
> Putting on my #centos community hat though ...
>
> Recently there was an uproar in mailing lists there and we told people to
> pay attention to Fedora ChangeSets for a loose indication on things to be
> aware of coming up.
So you took a process that originally already had problems and added
more problems by telling people to use it for things it wasn't meant
for? :)
Seriously, I understand the motivation there but Changes is not the
place to pay attention to things from a CentOS perspective. Not every
Change will wind up in RHEL, so it is already misleading. Further,
given the lifecycles, a Change that lands in one Fedora release may be
superseded by one in a later release.
Err I don't know where you are getting this from ... I *did not* submit this change ...
I'm the point of contact and one of the maintainers for Let's Encrypt but I'm not the one that put together the wiki page.
As I pointed out I'm at best ambivalent about this being a valid change - but we should probably have some mechanism to highlight new non-change features.
Indeed though many (most?) Fedora changes won't affect future RHEL Mattdm was the one over on those lists suggesting people pay attention to Fedora ChangeSets for at least a rough heads up on what might be coming at some point.
> If new packages/technology aren't to be mentioned and only changes to
> existing technology that may affect $developer are we do need a better way
> of exposing new things that are not changes.
Yes. New packages land in Fedora all the time. We don't want to
require them to file a Change simply because someone in some other
project might be interested in it. It's too much process.
If we need cross-project collaboration on things that will either be
_in_ RHEL for sure, or things that CentOS wants/needs, that is a
totally separate discussion. One that is certainly worth having.
Realistically I think LE has had enough publicity for now and given the strong feelings would dismiss this from the F24 ChangeSet.
I would say it's taking it to the extreme to declare about all new packages - most people won't care about the vast majority - but certain ones that have a significant community interest around makes sense.
Regardless of potentially upcoming RHEL releases, the ability to highlight non-change features in a Fedora release, outside of $random FM article, sounds like it would be a worthwhile discussion to have on the marketing@ mailing list.
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