On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 07:28:52AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: >> Changes are not used for that purpose. It is expressly the reason we >> decided to stop calling them Features. Changes focus on the technical >> content and impact for communication with Fedora developers. There's >> nothing in this one that other developers really need to know about on >> a project wide scale. >> >> If someone wants to market something, they should be working with the >> docs and marketing teams directly. > > Hmmm. I'm not sure this is true -- or if it is, we might need something > else. Marketing still uses the changes as a primary communication > channel for this kind of thing. The Changes Policy page says "Public > announcement of a new self contained change promotes cooperation on the > change, and extends its visibility." Sigh, really? Somewhere in the intervening years we've regressed then. The problem we originally addressed was that marketing would scroll through the Features and randomly pick some subset to promote the upcoming release. It was terrible. They'd choose things like "new update of the D programming language" because they didn't know what that meant or if it was important. FESCo was similarly terrible at figuring out which Features were neat marketing material. Some were obvious, but most were not. That led to people filing Features for whatever they thought was important, which is fine but it overloaded the Feature process and put hoops and hurdles in front of people where there shouldn't be. It also diluted our marketing message to basically be a massive list of all the Features, which all seemed equally important to the project. An end user would read it and be very confused what Fedora was for. So FESCo switched to Changes to focus solely on the technical impacts of a _change_. People were supposed to be directed to docs and marketing if they just wanted to highlight something they thought would be neat. And now we've come full circle and here we are today. > > Honestly, I'm more than a little unhappy to be coming down on people > for attempting to follow formal procedures and increase communication > and cooperation. I'm not coming down on anyone. I didn't say it wasn't important. I didn't say we shouldn't do this. I'm asking why this is different than any other new package addition we do in the distribution. I've not gotten an answer at all. If the answer is "marketing" then we should help them talk to marketing... josh -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
