Am 18.01.2016 um 00:08 schrieb Neal Gompa:
On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Am 17.01.2016 um 23:54 schrieb Kevin Fenzi:I'd encourage you to re-read our code of conduct ( https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct ) and try and be more respectful in bugs and here. We are all trying to improve things, lets work togetherin case of such obvious bugs this *is* resepectfulNo, it is not. Your tone and method of communication is highly antagonistic in nature on both mailing lists and in bugs you've filed in the Red Hat Bugzilla, and it's very hard to be willing to even consider issues you experience when you continue to maintain such a tone while trying to seek assistance or trying to get something fixed.
and replace a perfect working package manager is respectful to users?
Fedora is a large community and all of us love using and developing the distribution. Passions may get a bit hot, but we should always be respectful and constructive. We also don't live in isolation, and work with other communities to develop excellent solutions that everyone can use, including the many projects and products that are downstream from Fedora.
dnf is far away from "excellent solutions"just the fact that there are no useful outputs about the nature of a (mostly pretended) dependency problem disqualifies it while "yum-deprecated" shows you even soname-conflicts in a clear way
the case where i had enough again and wrote the mail above was a "dnf -v upgrade" with no useful output and "yum-deprecated upgrade" just worked fine as all the years ago - so *there is no* dependency problem
And if you really want something fixed that badly, talk to the DNF development team about contributing to fix particular issues, or even work with them one-on-one to help them fix it properly. Suggesting to throw out DNF and re-instate Yum is not helpful and makes it really easy to ignore you.
it would be enough to *remove* all that deprecation warnings for "yum-deprecated" and "package-cleanup" so that i could set an alias back to yum-deprecated
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