On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 04:57:26PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > If, instead, every package at the base level would take modularity as a > > baseline principle, we'd be in a lot better and more flexible state. > > > Does it have such heavy otherwise unneeded deps? > > In some cases, yes. In others, it's deps that don't seem individually > > heavy but they add up. > I am not sure I can read this any other way than "Nope, I won't be > specific with numbers and stuff, I just have the 'feeling' that > systemd is large and has huge deps". The minimal image as a whole is large, and systemd is a large part of it. There are plenty of specifics. systemd-delta brings in diffutils, at over 1MB for a very specific niche use. systemd-localed brings in libxkbcommon + xkeyboard-config at... what, more than 6MB? I think it's very safe to say that not all containerized applications need to be able to select a keyboard layout. My point isn't that there _aren't_ specifics. It's that I don't think it's productive to get in a quagmire arguing about each and every one, every time. Let's instead just have "keep overhead down" as a _baseline_ aim. Honestly, I don't get the antagonism here. Systemd itself is basically modular, and we have good tools for packaging things up in a modular way already. Let's use them, so that Fedora is a good base for people wanting to build application containers. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
