Re: no systemd in containers: Requires -> Recommends

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On Thu, 17.12.15 10:27, Matthew Miller (mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 04:18:12PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > > IIRC, some time ago there was a proposal to split systemd-tmpfiles,
> > > systemd-sysusers and other utilities to separate sub-package called
> > > systemd-tools. We should probably revisit this idea.
> > Why? Do you have any technical reasons?
> 
> This is the wrong question. Is there a technical reason all of this
> stuff must be on every system?

Nope, that's not the point to make. We ship tons of stuff you don't
always need, but why is this stuff that matters? Is it *that* large?
Does it have such heavy otherwise unneeded deps?

Also, why would you want to ship tmpfiles without systemd, or systemd
without tmpfiles? I don't get what this specific split would
accomplish. If you don't want systemd, then why would you want
tmpfiles? I mean, nothing would run tmpfiles in regular intervals,
hence it wouldn't work. Or is it that you want systemd, but not
tmpfiles? Why would that matter? 

Lennart

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