Re: Some analysis on the size of the minimal and Server installs of Fedora 23

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On 11/18/2015 01:43 PM, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 11:32 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
>>>>>>> "DW" == Dan Williams <dcbw@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>> 
>> DW> I suppose NM-tui could be pulled out of Server since not
>> that many DW> other things require newt, and nmcli is always
>> going to be there DW> anyway.
>> 
>> For some reason I thought NM-tui _was_ nmcli.  There's no reason
>> to have anything other than the command line tool in server,
>> indeed.  Some might argue that you don't even need that since you
>> can just edit some files and restart.  Are any deps there just
>> because of nmcli?
> 
> The only additional dep nmcli pulls in is a readline library.
> 

Just for the record, we do not actually include NetworkManager-tui in
the default Server install. We only have NetworkManager (which
includes nmcli) and NetworkManager-libnm.

We have had *requests*[1] to include NetworkManger-tui in the default
install, which I keep forgetting to discuss with the Server SIG, but
thus far we have not included it. My personal feeling is that we
shouldn't need NM-tui if we have Cockpit (though I acknowledge that
the latter is nowhere near as feature-complete).


[1] Most recently was from Dennis Gilmore who was asserting that he
needed it because nmcli couldn't create new interfaces. I'm pretty
sure that's incorrect, but I didn't have a handy pointer to give him.
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